Originally by: Akita T

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It could go either way for individual minerals depending on other factors I didn't bother to brush over with a fine-tooth comb.
The BASKET however will be going down for sure, down hard.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Or, even better, care to also add a little wager to go with it ? You know, the old "put your money where your mouth is" (and in the hands of a mutually trusted 3rd party) ? What about, hmm, say, 5 bil ISK, sounds decent enough for you ?

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Originally by: Lutz Major

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1 billion for Akita's side
Can someone provide a "barometer" of some sort?

If not - tell me and I'll set up something similiar.

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Originally by: Lutz Major

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Originally by: Uppsy Daisy

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Why take any more until there are some in the opposite direction?

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How about you? At least you started this thread. Put 20 billions down or what did you had in mind originally?

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Originally by: Akita T

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I personally never read into this thread as Uppsy Daisy intending to bet against me, just as Uppsy Daisy being curious if anybody would be stupid brave enough to take the bet.

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Originally by: Lutz Major

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Originally by: Uppsy Daisy

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Originally by: Lutz Major

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Originally by: Uppsy Daisy

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Why take any more until there are some in the opposite direction?

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How about you? At least you started this thread. Put 20 billions down or what did you had in mind originally?

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Answer the question. Why take any more until there are some in the opposite direction? How would that work?

Somepeoplearejustdense.

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So your answer is: "I don't have the balls to bet against the mineral basket going down" or "I started this thread, but don't know why"?

As far as I can see, the stakes are/would be as follows

 Mineral basket bet:

 0b 6b
 | | | |
 | | | | 20b
 | | | | 15b
 | | | | 10b
 | | |xxxx| 5b
 ------ ------
 UP DOWN

Where is your blind, Daisy?

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Originally by: Akita T

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Hey, you can still bet against me, at least you have better odds now

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Originally by: laksmi2

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maybe the actions of certain individuals shouldnt be discounted in all this just saying

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2010 11:41:35

My bet would be he's joking, but that translates poorly in forum-written posts.
P.S. The two smileys "could be" a hint

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Originally by: Tiruriku

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Originally by: Uppsy Daisy

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And hey! I like Akita!

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The real winner here has got to be Uppsy Daisy. Brilliant strategy, I must say

1. Kept a post authored by you on the MD front page for over two months with nearly 30k views, great rep building
2. Won (or will likely win) money but only bet against Akita to get things rolling and 'just for fun' as not to make any enemies
3. Use any anti-akita sentiment to get the deep pockets to influence prices

I joke of course.

Could an Uppsy Daisy IPO dealing with mineral speculation be next?

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Originally by: Akita T

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My initial point was that prices will drop to near whatever the IER was right after Tyrannis went live, and by that I still stand. Then in this thread it was revised to include a loose timeline and some trigger values, to make the bet more attractive. After nobody took that either, it was revised again to include even harsher rules and time constraints, and finally just a few people took it.

I might have lost this bet according to the terms agreed upon in this thread, but I still believe this rebound in mineral prices won't last very long.
My response obviously had to have a lot of "eventually" in it because, well, I have no idea when the boys fighting with them loads of capships are going to settle down a little, I have no idea how long it will take from miners scared off by Hulkageddon to get back to mining, and no idea how many bot-users CCP banned recently and how long they'll need to get back on track... to name but the strongest probable influences on recent mineral prices.

P.S. Also, what the heck, Mexallon

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